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Joe Paterno caused what we in Big Ten country call "a firestorm" - namely, a minor kerfluffle in which Delany gets all pissy about the Big Ten - heaven forbid - moving into something resembling the 21st century. Well, the Commish of the Off Tackle Conference isn't having any of that poppycock, Mr. Paterno. For now, at least. It appears it's going to take a few more ugly bowl game beatings and 1-7 bowl seasons for Delaney to realize this conference is in trouble. Regardless, it doesn't hurt to ponder on the possibilities that a twelfth team could bring to the beleaguered conference. Plus, it's May, so I'm desperate for content ideas. More after the break.

Star-divide

Adding a twelfth team to the conference implies, in the minds of most, a move to a two-division structure not unlike that of Big 12, ACC, and SEC, all of which hold moneymoneymoneygrab championship games before declaring a champion. So what would the divisions look like?

Doing it geographically, the divisions would probably look something like this:

Eastern Division:

Penn State

Ohio State

Michigan

Michigan State

Indiana

*possible twelfth team*

Western Division:

Iowa

Illinois

Wisconsin

Northwestern

Purdue

Minnesota

This is assuming that the new twelfth team falls in the "eastern" region of the conference's sphere of influence; this hypothetical team could be any one of Pitt, Rutgers, Louisville, or Notre Dame. If the team is geographically in the "western" area of the conference's sphere of influence, say a Missouri or an Iowa State, Purdue would probably be shifted to eastern division.

I would not anticipate the divisions making real geographic sense - i.e; one team in Indiana could be west of another team in Indiana and still be in the eastern division. As you can see, such a division as described above would be impractical, for many reasons. Chief among these reasons is the shitty, shitty western division. You have Penn State, Michigan, and Ohio State, the conference's three fuck lions, all in the same division, and bupkis (now that Bielema is at Wisconsin, anyway) in the other. It just wouldn't work out in an East/West Division as designed above.

North/South doesn't look too practical either:

North Division

Michigan

Michigan State

Minnesota

Wisconsin

Iowa

Northwestern

South Division

Indiana

Illinois

Penn State

Ohio State

Purdue

*possible twelfth team*

I find such divisions problematic because while a few of the teams looked at in most expansion brainstorms fall in the southern tips of Big Ten territory, the addition of a Notre Dame or Rutgers makes them almost completely nonsensical. Since when is Rutgers south of anything? And why is Iowa in the North while Illinois is in the south?

It's probably for the best to just abandon any notion of regional divisions, or to not stick too closely to them because you'll inevitably run into these little geographical idiosyncrasies that people will complain about for whatever reason. Here's my proposal for relatively even divisions in terms of the Conference Balance of Power. Fair warning: I cribbed the first division name from poster Buckeye in SC over on ElevenWarriors.

Heartland Division

Michigan State

Ohio State

Illinois

Michigan

Indiana

*Missouri, my ideal new team*

Upper Midwest (???) Division

Minnesota

Wisconsin

Penn State

Iowa

Northwestern

Purdue

My reasoning behind this is that right now, there are two "top dogs" in the conference: Ohio State and Penn State. Barring disaster in the post-Joe Pa era, Penn State will continue to be very good. Michigan, barring another disaster this year, should also be very good. Having Ohio State and Michigan - the two teams that have historically dominated the conference - in the same division is not necessarily a bad thing; for the following reasons:

1. Parity. Whether fans of other conferences like to admit it or not, the Big Ten does have some of it, and it may be spreading. Northwestern, Iowa and Michigan State all showed tangible signs of improvement last year. Penn State showed last year it can beat the big boys of the conference when it crawls out from under its rock. Purdue and Indiana are listless, I'll give you. But there are signs of hope that the conference is getting more competitive.

2. If the first justification doesn't work out, it still prevents a yearly re-match of The Game in the conference's title game. Traditional blowhards won't like this, but Ohio State-Michigan will not always decide who the conference sends to the BCS. Hell, it might even make the rivalry that much more competitive when the right to participate in the Big Ten Championship game is also on the line.

This is all, of course, contingent on who actually gets admitted to the conference. Above is my dream scenario; for whatever reason, Mizzou up and leaves the Big 12 and joins the Big Ten. It's an idea that has been floated for years. In the coming days, I'll be evaluating the prime contenders to fill that 12th team spot.

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As much as I’d hate to have us copy the other 3 BCS leagues in this manner, it does seem inevitable at some point. But I still don’t see it happening in the next couple of years. It may take 5-10 before this comes to pass.

As I posted on the previous OSU board, my dream scenario is when all the BCS conferences drop down to 10 schools. This would allow every team to play each school in the conference, and eliminates one patsy from every OOC schedule. No need for a conference championshipo game. I know that would never ever happen since those title games are $$$$$ making for the schools. But it is my dream.

by talonk on May 6, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I honestly think Delaney is too thickheaded

to let it come to pass while he’s calling the shots. So I agree.

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by Sam @ WWAHT on May 6, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's the plan I originally thought of

over at The Purple Buckeye back in January:

So, who should the Big 10 add? I think the most natural answer, both from a geographic standpoint and rivalry standpoint, is Notre Dame. Adding Notre Dame makes perfect sense. They add to an already rich history, the addition is mutually beneficial for both the school and the conference, and they have natural rivalrieas already set up with Michigan, Michigan State, and Purdue. And when setting up the divisions, let’s be more creative than North/South or East/West. I think the conference should be split geographically along an East West orientation, but let’s call the divisions the Great Lakes and the Great Plains Division, because it’s cool.

So, breaking down the divisions would look something like this:

Great Plains (West):
Minnesota
Iowa
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Illinois
Notre Dame

Great Lakes (East):
Michigan
Micigan State
Purdue
Indiana
Ohio State
Penn State

In the Great Plains, you keep natural/trophy/historic rivals MN-IA, MN-WI, IA-WI and NU-IL. In the Great Lakes, you keep natural/historic/trophy games with UM-MSU, IN-MSU, MSU-PSU, The Game, and PU-IN. Notre Dame still keeps their MSU and UM rivalry games because they can still play them every year, and then rotate between the remaining four teams in the division. The only real rival/trophy games that stands out as one that is in yearly jeopardy is the UM-MN game for the Little Brown Jug, but you can easily schedule a UM-MN game on a yearly basis. And really, when one team wins the trophy once every 20-25 years, how much of a rivalry is it? The OSU-IL game for the Illibuck isn’t a yearly game anymore, either, and there’s no real rivalry there, as much as Illinois might think so.

I think Notre Dame is the obvious answer, but they do align with the Big East in other major sports like basketball, so I could see them going to the Big East if they abandon their independent status. If not Notre Dame, I think there are a few possibilities that would be intriguing, and somewhat out of the box. Keeping in mind that a new entry into the Big 10 must be a school that borders a current Big 10 state (Big 10 rule), the pick would come from the Big East or Big XII North. I think Pitt, Cincinnati, or West Virginia would be prime candidates to join. Pitt has an up and coming team, and could renew an historic rivalry with Penn State. Cincinnati football has been revived under Brian Kelly, and they would play a perfect New Jersey Generals to Ohio State’s Harlem Globetrotters on a yearly basis. West Virginia fans are still bitter about Rich Rodriguez going to Michigan, so if RichRod can be successful in Ann Arbor, that makes for great theater, and a great rivalry. So let’s replace Nore Dame with one of these three teams. Division breakdown looks something like this:

Great Lakes (East):
Penn State
Pitt or Cincy or WVU
OSU
UM
MSU
Indiana

Great Plains (West):
Purdue
NU
IL
WI
MN
IA

Again, most rivalry/trophy games of meaning are left intact, with the main exception of the Old Oaken Bucket game. But again, on a case by case basis, you can schedule natural rivals in different division every year, and rotate the remaining teams through the schedule. But with Pitt in, you would revive a great Pitt-PSU rivalry, and there would be a natural geographical rivalry with OSU. And with kids growing up in Northern Ohio hating the Steelers, it might help recruiting…who knows? Cincinnati has a natural rivalry with OSU, West Virginia with OSU, Michigan, and Penn State.

Let’s look west. The Big XII has taken a decidedly southern flavor in recent years, and that’s okay…for some. For the old Big 8 crowd, it isn’t sitting well. Big XII headquarters was moved from Kansas City to Dallas, and the conference championship game is going there as well, thanks to Jerry Jones and his billion dollar playground. From the Big XII, I see two possibilities, Missouri and Nebraska. Mizzou is a longshot, though, because they have a rivalry in Kansas that is every bit as bitter as OSU-UM. Even though they have a budding rivalry with Illinois, I don’t see them giving up over 100 years of the Border War for the Arch rivalry.

So that leaves…wait for it…Nebraska. Yeah, Nebraska. Another powerhouse program on the way to redemption, with only a faded rivalry with Oklahoma keeping them where they are now. And the ruination of the grat Oklahoma-Nebraska rivalry was the prime reason that I feel you need to keep OSU-UM in the same division. They only play every few years now, and at one time it was one of the top three rivalries in the country. So if you can add Nebraska, it would look something like this:

Great Plains (West):
Minnesota
Iowa
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Illinois
Nebraska

Great Lakes (East):
Michigan
Micigan State
Purdue
Indiana
Ohio State
Penn State

The only drawback is that there aren’t any rivalries that jump out for Nebraska in the Big 10, but Iowa and Wisconsin, the two strongest programs in that division, would quickly become top rivals with the Cornhuskers.

Now, for the conference championship game. It could be rotated throughout the Midwest, and there are some great facilities that can host it. Lucas Oil Field in Indianapolis, Soldier Field, Ford Field in Dertoit, even the new Vikings stadium, if they ever build the damn thing. But how about, at least in the inagural championship game, you go to Lambeau Field?

You have the Mecca of football (and God I hate to say that as a Vikes fan) hosting one of the most historic games in college fottbal history. It would make great theater.

Thoughts on the Vikings, Buckeyes, and Cardinals

www.purplebuckeye.blogspot.com

by Ted Glover on May 6, 2009 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I like your thoughts (as well as your divison names)

but in your first suggestion, one of the divisions has Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State all to itself. That’s pretty top-heavy.

As far as championship game sites, I think a good possibility is a rotation between Soldier Field and Ford Field, one that’ll be a bit more of a home game for the western team and the other a little more of one for the eastern team. This may help remedy that first top-heavy division since any one of PSU, Ohio State and Michigan would have to at least travel to a game it should probably win.

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by Sam @ WWAHT on May 9, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's top heavy, but it's also cyclical

Penn State goes up and down, Michigan is WAY down, Ohio State has been down. In the other hypothetical conference, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Illinois go through periods of strength and weakness as well. I think over time it would even out, and once JoePa retires PSU will go through a significant transition.

Thoughts on the Vikings, Buckeyes, and Cardinals

www.purplebuckeye.blogspot.com

by Ted Glover on May 12, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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