Oregon it is
With a 37-33 triumph in the Civil War, Chip Kelly's Oregon Ducks are your Rose Bowl adversaries. I have to say, I actually like this match-up. Not because I think Ohio State matches up exceedingly well with Oregon across the board, but because it's almost guaranteed to be a great game. I just can't see either team laying down and taking the afternoon off. If it isn't close, I'll be shocked.
I think this game is actually rather analogous to last year's game against Texas in the Fiesta; the 'Horns were a potent, if slightly unbalanced offense, while the Buckeyes were coming in with most of the nation expecting them to get rolled again off of another conference championship season. Obviously, I don't think that'll happen, for a couple of reasons:
1. Ohio State destroys opposing rushing attacks not named Navy.
2. Oregon's passing attack is the third worst Ohio State has seen all year, ranking ahead of only Navy and New Mexico State.
That said, the Ducks boast by far the best rushing attack Ohio State has played since the Navy game, presently standing at 8th-best in the nation. The only others that come close are Wisconsin (18th) and Illinois (25th). Ohio State limited both attacks very well, but neither of those teams feature players as explosive as Legarette Blount and LaMichael James, and Masoli runs with John Clay power from the QB position. After watching Oregon State miss multiple tackles in the backfield tonight, I'm actually rather confident Ohio State can win this battle. It'll be strength versus strength, and we should be able to tell early on how the game will go by how much of a push Ohio State gets at the point of attack.
Defensively, Oregon is fairly stout for a Pac-10 outfit. Statistically, they're 27th in the country in total D, but just 44th in scoring D and have given up 19+ points in 9 games this year. They are vulnerable where Ohio State is strong, having given up 14 touchdowns on the ground and holding only four opponents to fewer than 100 yards rushing. If the Ohio State offensive line plays as well as it did against Iowa and Penn State, the ground game might be a walk in the park. If I had confidence that Ohio State could do anything through the air against pretty much anyone, I'd be much more confident about predicting a win.
One concern: Spread teams had success later on in the season moving the ball against Ohio State. Fortunately for us, I don't think Masoli is quite the passer Joey Elliot was, and he's only marginally better as a thrower than Tate Forcier at his best. Masoli is not a robo-QB like Colt McCoy, and he's roughly as mobile as the Texas signal-caller. That said, he's also more liable to take off, can run over defenders like no QB I've ever seen, and he's downright deadly in the read-option game.
Other concerns:
1. Tresselball with a vengeance
2. Offensive line blubbin' up in the bowl break
3. It's the Rose Bowl, and we're the Big Ten representative, so....
Prepare yourself for more "YET ANOTHER BUCKEYE BCS BLOWOUT" talk from the mainstream press, of course. Anyone who has watched either team will know that each has its merits and its weaknesses, and the football gods have ordained that each squad's strength be tested against the other squad's strength. Looks like a classic in the making.
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by jtlight on Dec 4, 2009 2:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think you are vastly underrating Masoli as a passer. The Buckeyes have not faced an offense in the same league as Oregon’s this year. Who’s the best so far? Purdue? Penn State?
by Nevaduck on Dec 4, 2009 2:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
And the answer is....
Wisconsin? Statistically speaking anyway. Similar pass yards to the Ducks, but less rushing yards (with one game remaining).
by CraigD on Dec 4, 2009 7:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The best so far is actually Toledo, but they don't count
and I’m not underrating Masoli as a passer; I’m looking at the statistics. For such a wide-open, explosive offense, the passing attack is lackluster – 94th in the country last I checked. Just about 20 yards more/game than Ohio State.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the speed of Oregon can be an issue.
Jeff Maehl burnt a corner. Nuff said.
Many can try to imitate, but there can be only one...Masoli.
by Jeff Daddy on Dec 4, 2009 3:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Don't buy into the "speed" myth
Ohio State is just as fast as any other BCS team. You won’t toast Ohio State like you did the country’s 92nd-ranked pass defense.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree Maehl won't burn you
That’s not his style. He’s a possession receiver, not a burner. That Oregon State CB better be embarrassed for that play.
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by skywaker9 on Dec 4, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah this game should be one of the best all year. Expect a lot of points because we know OSU is going to score and Oregon has the ability to fly around the field at will. I think this game should favor OSU because of the D. Oregon is a run heavy team, as seen last night.
Their backs are big and fast but we’ve stopped every back on every team with Navy being the exception. Blount wants to run people over, just like he did last night. He is a north/south runner and I don’t see him running any of our linebackers over.
Either way, this game gets my early vote for bowl of the year.
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by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Dec 4, 2009 9:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Its not Blount you need to be afraid of
Its James and Masoli. Your D will need to be VERY disciplined on staying in their lanes, especially because Masoli can and will take off if he doesn’t have an open WR.
On the other hand, Oregon hasn’t faced a running QB like Pryor on the other side all year so I’m not sure how we’ll handle that. Arizona’s was closest but Foles is not that fast.
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by skywaker9 on Dec 4, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you guys struggled against Navy...
an option team, why would you do better against our option team?
by BisonDucks on Dec 4, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, come on. Are you serious?
Navy runs the triple option. It couldn’t be much more different from the spread-option. Ohio State played two spread option teams this year, Michigan and Illinois, and while both are a shadow of Oregon’s offense, they did about as well as one could expect.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've watched Navy play and
they run triple option. Did you watch Oregon last night face to James, Masoli ran the ball and then pitched to a second running back, namely Barner. That is, by my count, 3 different options. We run a lot of triple option but not a wishbone set. It’s actually a pretty treacherous offense. Masoli is 220 and blows people over. I love it.
by BisonDucks on Dec 4, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is suppose to be...
fake to james, Masoli ran and pitched to a second running back, namely Barner. I wish there was an edit function.
by BisonDucks on Dec 4, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Oregon’s potential for effective triple option plays is made better by the fact that almost certainly LGB is going to be included in our play-book in a big way between now and then. So instead of Fake to james, pitch to Barner, it becomes Fake to Blount, pitch to James.
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by everett on Dec 4, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a terrific offense, sure, but it's not the Navy offense.
Two completely different entities. Doing a direct comparison is just foolish.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It is a fair comparison...
you have to play assignment football and know where the ball is…
by BisonDucks on Dec 4, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You have to do that against every. single. offense.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Every opposing coach that watches film on our team...
espouses disciplined assignment football against our team. It becomes the moniker for practice. Just watch: Tressel will be mouthing those words in the next presser.
by BisonDucks on Dec 4, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tressel says those words in every presser, as does every coach
Because you have to do that against every. single. team.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He will say:
It’s more important than any other team face!
by BisonDucks on Dec 4, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As long as Tressel decides to open up the offense some, we might have a chance to outscore them.
But if he pulls his usual field position game, I think Oregon ends up scoring pretty easily on a few long runs/drives. While we do have the stout D that could bottle them up on a few drives, their offense is still stout enough to scoe 24+ on us.
To win, we are going to need to score 27+. Will Tressel be willing to open the offense to do that? That is what worries me the most about this game.
by talonk on Dec 4, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure we'll need to score 27+
I don’t think we’ll “shut down” the Oregon offense by any means, but 21-24 could very well be enough to top the Ducks, especially if the defensive line plays like it did against Texas, Penn State, and USC
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh you'll need to put up at least 35 on my Ducks
Four times this season Oregon faced what was then the top rushing D in our conference. Each time, we burned them for over 200 yards.
Pryor will have to have the game of his life to beat Oregon.
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by skywaker9 on Dec 4, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, dude?
It doesn’t matter where the defense was “then” ranked. What matters is where they finished the season, and no defense Oregon has faced has finished in the top 10.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude...
yeah, it does matter because after they play the Ducks their ranking against the run drops dramatically. That USC team that held you to 88 yards on 30 caries gave up 391 yards on 49 caries to Oregon.
by jfwells on Dec 4, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
First, the transitive property does not apply in college football and we both know this.
Second, of course their ranking drops when they face a good rushing attack if they are not a good rushing defense. If Oregon was running up those statistics on an USC defense that throttled every other rushing attack it had played, I’d be a bit more impressed.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose you don’t want to talk about our other common opponent either? Comparing common opponents is hardly the transitive property. I am not saying that since we beat Washington, and Washington beat USC, and USC beat tOSU, therefore we will beat tOSU. (extra step in there, I know)
USC was a good rushing defense until they ran into Oregon. They continued to be pretty good until Stanford put 300+ on them. Even with those two games they have only allowed 135/game this season. Oregon ran for 391.
by jfwells on Dec 4, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
USC was a good rushing defense until it played good rushing teams
And before you say “So Ohio State isn’t a good rushing team?”, no, it certainly wasn’t at the start of the season.
Good rushing defenses step up against great attacks. Ohio State has done this in every game against superior rushing attacks except Navy.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As far as "superior rushing attacks" go, it's true Ohio State has not faced all that many
As I said above, Wisconsin and Illinois are very good on the ground, but they’re nowhere near as good as Oregon. I completely agree with this, and that’s why I think this will be a fun game to watch.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not trying to downplay Oregon's accomplishments; they have played good rushing defenses
Just not one as good as ours.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We'll see
We’ll see indeed.
Should be interesting in any case to see the Big 10 version of a spread (Michigan’s sucks so bad I don’t count that) face off against our spread.
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by skywaker9 on Dec 4, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, what?
We don’t run the “spread”.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No but you have a spread style QB
Someone Oregon tired to recruit as well.
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by skywaker9 on Dec 4, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, I guess so.
But we don’t run a spread offense. This isn’t a contest of “spread offenses”.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This should be an exciting game, the only annoying thing (for me, at least) is that no matter who wins the media will downplay the victory (e.g. if Ohio State wins, then they beat a team that lost to Boise St. and must not have improved over the rest of the season; and if Oregon wins then they will have beaten an overrated Buckeye team that always lays an egg in the BCS).
by Estrada on Dec 4, 2009 11:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
As an Oregon fan, this is the way to beat us
1. Turn us over, mostly by our own stupid mistakes. See the fumbles we had last night as well as the high snaps. Most likely way to victory for your team.
2. Have a strong passing game. What cost us the Stanford game wasn’t Gearhart as much as it was Andrew Luck, the Stanford QB, playing insanely well and forcing us to cover their WRs. You will NOT be beat Oregon simply running the ball if you don’t also have a passing game. That’s what Cal tried to do against us this year and we shut down Jahvid Best and smacked them.
3. Outscore Oregon. As you can see from last night, we can score very very quickly. Probably not going to happen.
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by skywaker9 on Dec 4, 2009 5:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Boise State passed for 197 yards and won.
I’m not sure how much of a requirement a “strong passing game” is. Purdue, Stanford, Arizona and Washington each passed for 250+ yards, and none of them ranks in the national top 30 in passing offense.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Boise State game set football back about 20 years
For both schools. So sloppy.
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by skywaker9 on Dec 4, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Washington was trailing badly
And Purdue and Zona were doing so poorly running the ball they had to go to the air.
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by skywaker9 on Dec 4, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, both Purdue and Arizona have no rushing attacks to speak of from the start.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Arizona does
Nic Grigsby is a very good RB (but we caused him to reinjure himself). and their backups are pretty good too. Zona runs a pass based spread with lots of screens and short throws, unlike Oregon’s run based spread.
I’ll trust you on Purdue since that’s your league though.
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by skywaker9 on Dec 4, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Arizona is 42nd in rush O
They’re above-average at best.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's some in depth analysis...
you really should look at yards per attempt to even the score for those teams that are more balanced, a la Arizona. I didn’t even have to look at the stat to know it intuitively that Arizona is very effective at running the ball because they are ranked #15 in yards per attempt.
by BisonDucks on Dec 4, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t even have to look at the stat to know it intuitively that Arizona is very effective at running the ball because they are ranked #15 in yards per attempt.
Eh? I agree, it’s two sides of the same coin, but Arizona runs the ball what, 30 percent of the time? All this means is that when they run, they’re fairly good at it, but they don’t do it on a consistent enough basis for us to draw any conclusions. For my money, actual YPG determines the strength of a rushing attack.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 6:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They are good at running the ball...
Their line is good, averages over 323 pounds, they have a good full back in Gronkoski, and they have 3 very good backs in Antolin, Nwoko and Booth and one exceptional back in Grisby. Then Arizona lines you up with 4 wide receiver sets. I really don’t think there is anything like it in the Big-10. It’s a very scary offense.
by BisonDucks on Dec 4, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good Luck Tressel Ball
Brandon Saine – 694 yards, 4 tds
LaMichael James – 1476 yards, 16 tds
Jacquizz Rodgers – 1377 yards, 20 tds
Chris Polk – 1019 yards, 4 tds
Jahvid Best – 867 yards, 12 tds
Joe Mcknight – 979 yards, 8 tds
Shane Vareen – 738 yards, 10 tds
Allen Bradford – 530 yards, 7 tds
Nic Grigsby – 559 yard, 5 tds
Johnathan Franklin – 560 yards, 4 tds
Keola Antolin – 517 yards, 4 tds
Congrats Buckeyes, you have about the 8th best RB in the Pac-10
by Nevaduck on Dec 4, 2009 8:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You also have a Diet Jake Locker at QB
Terrelle Pryor – 144 for 258 (55.8%) 16 tds, 10 ints
Jake Locker – 211 for 372 (56.7%) 18 tds, 11 ints
Locker was 23 for 44 (52.3%) and 266 yards, 1 td, and 2 ints against Oregon for the record.
Locker also could beat the Trojans.
by Nevaduck on Dec 4, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You leave out Pryor's rushing numbers
and you leave in “266 yards” from Pac 10’s 7th best quarterback (in terms of QB rating) as if it’s something to be proud of.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also left out the fact that Locker was playing behind U-Dubs O-line, so lets call it even.
by Nevaduck on Dec 4, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh? I doubt UW's offensive line is much better or worse than Ohio State's.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, what the hell is your point?
Is UW’s offensive awful or good? At no point this season did UW put together five straight 200+ yard rushing days. In fact, they had just one all year, against Washington State. So I retract that: Ohio State’s offensive line is far, far better.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, it is much better. I was saying that Pryor reminded me of a lesser version of Jake Locker. A very gifted, strong, and fast athlete, but often rough around the edges as a passer. Their stats are very similar, but favor Locker despite Pryor’s far superior supporting cast.
If Pryor is only Diet Locker, I feel better about Oregon’s chances.
by Nevaduck on Dec 4, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because Brandon Saine is obviously the only guy we have who can run the ball
And the fact that Ohio State’s been splitting carries all year among three running backs and a quarterback has nothing to do with Saine’s numbers. Nope, nothing to do with it at all.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Since Saine split carries with Herron and Pryor it’s really not fair to compare him to other RB’s who were the feature back on their teams. Either you don’t know this or you’re deliberately trying to be deceiving.
If you add Pryor, Saine, and Herron’s stats together you get 1959 yards for 18 TD’s. That’s a much more accurate representation of the OSU running attack.
by Buckeye Brad on Dec 4, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“Hey we beat the mighty Evan Royster, he of the SIX touchdowns in the Big 10, and the one who’s best games are where he ran for 130 plus on Temple AND Minnesota!”
-A Buckeye fan somewhere
by Nevaduck on Dec 4, 2009 8:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What's the point of this post?
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you were pumping up Royster as a lock for first round draft choice, not me.
by Nevaduck on Dec 4, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just because he had a slightly-subpar year behind an all-new offensive line doesn't mean he's untalented
The guy put together back-to-back 1000+ yard seasons in one of the better defensive conferences in the country. I also said he’s a “first day” draft pick, implying the first three rounds. First round might not be too big a stretch if he comes out next year.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair, and definitely my mistake on the round/day mixup.
by Nevaduck on Dec 4, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, you can be as big of Oregon homer as you want at ATQ.
Stay Classy duck fans. I am embarrassed by level of contributions by a few of my fellow duck fans here so far.
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by everett on Dec 4, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Thanks, everett. rec'd.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It won’t be a blowout in anyone’s favor, but to assume the Buckeyes will be a favorite is complete disillusionment.
by Nevaduck on Dec 4, 2009 9:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
At no point did I say they would be.
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by Sam @ WWAHT on Dec 4, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t accuse you, I just didn’t want anyone to think I was asserting anything extreme.
by Nevaduck on Dec 4, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Ohio State makes Oregon one-dimensional
and Oregon has to pass to win, they should win. Complain about Tresselball all you want, but it’s tough to argue results:
1 National Championship
3 NCG appearances
7 BCS bowl games
9 bowl appearances in 9 years
4-4 Bowl record
1 Heisman Trophy Winner
I would think 115 other Div I programs would kill for those results.
Look, I’m old school. I was a kid during Woody-Bo, and the Rose Bowl was the penultimate achivement. I never was a fan of the BCS, and I think the old bowl system was better, and would prefer it to a playoff (I know, it’s archaic, but I like tradition, and I like the bowl system). Trsselball can be boring, but it works.
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by MilCardFan on Dec 4, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Very good point. Didn’t Tressel win a few titles at Youngstown?
by Nevaduck on Dec 4, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Four, in fact. So anyone who says that Tressel can’t coach in “big games” is an idiot. I’m a YSU grad and Tressel won his last title there my freshman year, and he made another championship game my junior year. His teams at YSU routinely beat higher-ranked teams in the playoffs so this idea Tressel’s brand of football doesn’t work against great teams in important games is just ridiculous.
by Buckeye Brad on Dec 4, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Woah, where did that come from?
I said that if your leading rusher is also the QB, and the QB isn’t an elite player in the Vince Young or Tebow (or LeFevour?) realm, then that is usually a problem.
Obviously Tressel can coach. It’s a bit ho-hum/frustrating/boring at times, but I would be stupid to argue with what gets results.
by Nevaduck on Dec 4, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My turn
Wow, A lot of trash talk going on. I’m an OSU fan and really looking forward to this game. I respect Oregon a lot, though from their games I have seen this year (Boise, USC, Arizona, Oregon State) they are beatable. Our D is tough- Oregon will find that out.
More than anything, when I watch them, I wish that Terrelle could be more like Masoli. For Oregon the main threats are the running back or QB running, but they also throw effectively off the run fake. Masoli is brilliant at selling fakes. Maybe our coaches and TP can pick that up watching film.
by Big Red Dog on Dec 4, 2009 10:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Alright, this has been fun, but I'm locking this comment thread
We’ll have plenty of time over the course of the next month to discuss the relative merits of Ohio State and Oregon. For now, I fear this thread is fertile ground for a lot more trolling, and I’d rather not hand out any more warnings or bans.
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